Wednesday, June 11, 2025

Do As I Say, Not As I Do – Hall of Fame Managers Who Were Terrible Players

Ranked in order, from best player to worst.

 

Joe Torre (actually pretty good)

  • WAR:  57.6
  • Years:  18, 1960s-70s
  • Teams:  Mil/Atl, StL, NYM
  • Pos:  c, 1b, 3b
  • Single-season highlights:  In 1971, led majors in batting (363), hits, RBIs & TBs; was NL MVP
  • Career highlights:  297 average, 9 All Star appearances
  • Similar players:  HoFers Ryan Sandberg & Bobby Doerr
  • Fun fact:  Never appeared in postseason


John McGraw (actually not bad at all)

  • WAR:  45.7
  • Years:  17, 1890s & 1900s
  • Teams:  Brooklyn, NYG, Balt
  • Pos:  3b, ss
  • Single-season highlights:  3 years leading league in OBP, 2 in runs
  • Career highlights:  1000 runs, 1300 hits, 440 SBs; career OBP ranks 3rd all-time
  • Similar players:  HoFer Hugh Jennings
  • Fun fact:  Missed most of one season due to contracting malaria


Miller Huggins (pretty good actually)

  • WAR:  35.4
  • Years:  13, 1900s & 1910s
  • Teams:  StL, Cinn
  • Pos:  2b
  • Single-season highlights:  4-time league leader in walks; multiple defensive stats
  • Career highlights:  1475 hits, 950 runs, 325 SBs
  • Similar players:  Eddie Stanky, Bobby Richardson
  • Fun fact:  Known as “Rabbit," "Mighty Mite,” and "Little Everywhere"


Billy Southworth (not bad)

  • WAR:  21.6
  • Years:  13, mostly in the 1920s
  • Teams:  5
  • Pos:  of
  • Single-season highlights:  Led league in triples; multiple defensive stats
  • Career highlights:  297 average, 1300 hits, 560 RBIs
  • Similar players:  Casey Stengel (see below)
  • Fun fact:  Game-winning hit clinched Cards’ first modern-era pennant


Casey Stengel (still pretty decent)

  • WAR:  20.2
  • Years:  14, 1910s & 20s
  • Teams:  5
  • Pos:  of
  • Single-season highlights:  Led league in OBP; in 1917, led league in fielding percentage, putouts, assists & games
  • Career highlights:  284 average, 1220 hits, 535 RBIs
  • Similar players:  Billy Southworth (see above)
  • Fun fact:  Batted 393 in 3 World Series


Ned Hanlon (still OK)

  • WAR:  18.1
  • Years:  13, 1880s & 90s
  • Teams:  Mostly Detroit Wolverines
  • Pos:  of
  • Single-season highlights:  Led league in games played; multiple defensive stats
  • Career highlights:  1300 hits, 930 runs, 500 RBIs, 330 SBs
  • Similar players:  Omar Moreno, Vince Coleman, Michael Bourn
  • Fun fact:  Traveled to Hawaii, Australia, Ceylon, Arabia, Egypt & Europe as part of Albert Spalding's "Around the World Baseball Tour”


Al Lopez (still decent)

  • WAR:  16.4
  • Years:  19, 1930s & 40s
  • Teams:  Brooklyn, Pittsburgh, Boston Braves
  • Pos:  c
  • Single-season highlights:  2-time All Star; multiple defensive stats
  • Career highlights:  1500 hits, 600 runs, 650 RBIs
  • Similar players:  HoFers Ray Schalk, Rick Ferrell
  • Fun fact:  Set a record for games played by a catcher (since broken)


Bucky Harris (still decent)

  • WAR:  16.3
  • Years:  12, mostly in the 1920s
  • Teams:  Mostly Washington
  • Pos:  2b
  • Single-season highlights:  3-time league leader in HBP & SH; multiple defensive stats
  • Career highlights:  1300 hits, 720 runs, 500 RBIs
  • Similar players:  Dave Cash, Mickey Morandini
  • Fun fact:  Player/manager at age 27


Wilbert Robinson (pretty average actually)

  • WAR:  6.7
  • Years:  17; 1890s-1910s
  • Teams:  4, mostly Brooklyn
  • Pos:  c
  • Single-season highlights:  Batted 353 in 1894; multiple defensive stats
  • Career highlights:  1400 hits, 720 RBIs
  • Similar players:  HoFer Ray Schalk
  • Fun fact:  Once caught a triple-header, followed by a double-header the next day


Connie Mack (average or below)

  • WAR:  6.0
  • Years:  11, 1880s & 90s
  • Teams:  3
  • Pos:  c
  • Single-season highlights:  League leader in HBP; mutiple defensive stats
  • Career highlights:  125 SBs
  • Similar players:  Larry Kopf, Con Daily, Silver Flint
  • Fun fact:  “A light-hitting catcher with a reputation as a smart player, but didn't do anything particularly well as a player.” (Bill James)


Leo Durocher (average at best)

  • WAR:  4.1
  • Years:  17, 1920s-40s
  • Teams:  4
  • Pos:  ss
  • Single-season highlights:  3-time All Star, 3-time league leader in fielding percentage
  • Career highlights:  1320 hits, 570 RBIs, 575 runs
  • Similar players:  Tim Foli, Spike Owen, Freddie Patek
  • Fun facts:  Was called the “All-American Out” by teammate Babe Ruth


Dick Williams (below average)

  • WAR:  3.4
  • Years:  13, 1950s & 60s
  • Teams:  5
  • Pos:  of
  • Single-season highlights:  In 1959, hit 16 HRs, with 75 RBIs & 72 runs
  • Career highlights:  360 runs, 330 RBIs
  • Similar players:  Darnell Coles, Mark Teahen, Gino Cimoli
  • Fun fact:  500 average in the postseason (1 hit in 2 ABs)


Bill McKechnie (below average)

  • WAR:  3.4
  • Years:  11, 1907-20
  • Teams:  6
  • Pos:  Mostly 3b; everything else other than c
  • Single-season highlights:  In 1914, in the Federal League, batted 304, scored 107 runs & stole 47 bases
  • Career highlights:  715 hits
  • Similar players:  Emilio Bonifacio, Babe Pinelli, Klondike Douglass
  • Fun fact:  Player/manager at age 28


Whitey Herzog (bad)

  • WAR:  2.8
  • Years:  8, 1950s & 60s
  • Teams:  4
  • Pos:  of
  • Single-season highlights:  Got over 400 at bats only once, in his rookie year
  • Career highlights:  1600 at-bats, 215 runs, 170 RBIs
  • Similar players:  Al Pilarcik, Leron Lee, Joe Christopher
  • Fun facts:  Once said, “said, "Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it."


Bobby Cox (bad)

  • WAR:  0.9
  • Years:  2, 1960s
  • Teams:  NYY
  • Pos:  3b
  • Highlights:  Starter in 1968, getting 100 hits 440 at bats
  • Similar players:  Ray Bates, Emil Huhn, Tucker Ashford
  • Fun fact:  Retired because of bad knees


Walter Alston (terrible)

  • Years:  1936
  • Teams:  StL
  • Pos:  1b
  • “Highlights”:  Struck out on 3 pitches in single at-bat; 3 innings in field, making an error on 2 chances
  • Fun fact:  Subbed for Johnny Mize (who had been objected ejected) in the  final game of the season


Tony La Russa (terrible)

  • WAR:  -0.6
  • Years:  6, 1960s & 70s
  • Teams:  mostly Athletics
  • Pos:  mostly 2b
  • Single-season “highlights”:  Got over 100 at bats only once
  • Career “highlights”:  Finished 1 point under the Mendoza line, never hit a homer
  • Fun fact:  bonus baby


Tommy Lasorda (terrible)

  • WAR:  -1.1
  • Years:  3, 1950s
  • Teams:  Brooklyn, KC Athletics
  • Pos:  p
  • Single-season “highlights”: In his only start, left after the first inning after tying a major-league record with three wild pitches in one inning (and then was spiked trying to cover home on the last one)
  • Career “highlights”:  0-4, 6.48, 1.869 WHIP; 1 hit in 14 ABs
  • Fun fact:  Sent down to the minors for Sandy Koufax


Sparky Anderson (terrible)

  • WAR:  -1.2
  • Years:  1, 1959
  • Teams:  Phillies
  • Pos:  2b
  • “Highlights”:  527 ABs, 0 HRs, 34 RBIs; did lead league in games played at 2b
  • Fun fact:  Traded by Dodgers to Phils for 3 players – Rip Repulski, Gene Snyder & Jim Golden


Earl Weaver (didn't even make the majors)

  • Years:  0 (14 in minors, 1940s-60s)
  • Teams:  From D thru AAA
  • Pos:  2b
  • Career highlights:  5000 ABs, 1000 hits, 500 RBIs
  • Fun fact:  Played for West Frankfort, Dublin (GA) & Fitzgerald (GA)


Joe McCarthy (ditto)

  • Years:  0 (15 in minors, 1900s-1920s)
  • Teams:  Highest level was AA
  • Pos:  Utility
  • Career highlights:  5540 ABs, not quite 1500 hits
  • Fun fact:  Played as a Baron, Millionaire & Peach

Jim Leyland (ditto)

  • Years:  0 (7 in minors, mostly 1960s)
  • Teams:  Tigers organization; never got past AA
  • Pos:  c
  • Career “highlights”:  222 average & 4 HRs over 1220 ABs
  • Fun fact:  Pitched 4 innings, giving up 6 hits, 2 ERs, no walks & 2 Ks


Frank Selee (non-existent)

  • Years:  0 (amateur only, 1884)
  • Teams:  Melrose (MA) Alphas
  • Pos:  of
  • Career highlights:  no records exist
  • Fun fact:  “He played the outfield a few times that year, and those contests represent Frank Selee’s entire professional playing career.” (SABR)



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